The Surasundari – Indias ideal woman?
How do we know whether a statue of buxom woman is a goddess or a courtesan? I love archaeology reading reports of digs from Sanchi to Megiddo.
I am always intrigued by the assumptions. History – His Story – is a narrative f meaning we and society create. Historians are the wandering minstrel and tellers of folk tales to a modern audience.
Read the history of the Middle East and every buxom idol is called a goddess.
Historian Wendy Doniger rightly suggests, in my view, that we guess to much in trying to interpret the meaning or use of sculpture, especially of woman. It is all to common for historians to assume a large breasted woman is a goddess, but why not a courtesan?
Will future archaeologists assume a playboy centerfold is a goddess?
Doniger lists the descriptions of the Mohenjo-Daro dancing girl: The archaeologist Marshal a “youthful impudence.”, John Keay a slender nymphet happily flaunting her puberty, flaunting wanting to be admired, others describe “gaunt and boyish femininity: her provocative “footless stance, haughty head. and petulantly poised arms, “something endearing· in “the artless pose of an awkward adolescent. .She is said to have “proto-Australoid” features that are also attested in skeletons in the Indus Valley.
Just as 19th century historians attempted to fit discoveries into the mold of Herodotus, Thucydides or Diodorus Siculus, and the The Mahabharata, Vedas and Ramayana shaped how historians described saw India .
Another filter was Christian chronology. .
For example,, the excavation reports of Sanchi incorrectly assumed that Buddhism was more a snake worshipping adaption of Vishnu worship. The later more refined art was then linked incorrectly to chronology of Christian esoterica.
British historians have been criticised by Hindu nationalists for distorting Indian history. Sometimes fairly, sometimes not.
There is little doubt that colonialist researchers were influenced by their traditions, just as Indian writers were influenced by theirs.
It is wrong to completely dismiss 19th century scientific examination. Science was a this time also challenging many of Christendom’s assumptions.
Hindsight often misreads an earlier phenomenon by assuming that it meant then the same thing that it meant later, reading the past through the present, forgetting that we cannot simply lay the present over the past like a plastic map overlay. The false Orientalist assumptions that India was timeless and that the classical texts of the Brahmins described an existing society led to the equally false assumption that the village and caste organization of colonial or even contemporary India was a guide to their historical past.
The meanings given in Hinduism may not have been the same in Harappa or Mohenjo-Daro. It may also be wrong to assume no carry over from the past.
Of course some Indian scholars rightly criticise European historic assumptions.
However, others such as the Aryan Invasion theory suited the powerful (Aryan) Brahmin Caste. So while, Archaeology has since developed tools to question some of the histories developed from a literary analysis of ancient texts. Happy to enjoy a dig at the mistakes of former Imperialist masters , for reasons of politics some are less happy when the same techniques and questions on their own traditions.
I read recently something about Wendy Doniger that challenged her knowledge of ancient languages and her scholarship. Apparently, it’s not only Hindu Nationalists who find her work less than deserving. Granted, I don’t know the politics of those academics on record who have challenged her work, so I can’t speak to any question of bias on her part.
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Thankyou so much for your observations.
I am sure that – as in any attempt of scholarship – there will be criticisms. The book has praised as an important contribution by William Dalrymple. However, in India political pressure forced the pulping of the book. I have seen other incidents where authors have had to have chapters deleted from Indian editions of fair minded articles because of legal action which may take decades. The issue in India over Wendy Doniger was to my mind more about free speech. I think people of all cultures find it hard to accept the story we give ur past may colour honest evaluation of the facts.
Her book – which I have (mostly) read, does not really offer anything new. It asks people to look at the same facts differently.
Thanks for your observations.
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Thanks for sharing yours! I have been in Wellness and Alternative Health for 17 years as a Massage Therapist. Indian religion and philosophy is part and parcel of the Industry and if you don’t delve into it as a practice or study it as an academic you wind up in aesthetics sooner or later and post modernism that places artificial culture and ethnic distinctions around the mind as if human beings are so limited that we don’t value a good idea when we are introduced to it. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts.
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Agreed. I’m a Bowen Therapist and have studied herbalism delving into Ayurveda and TCM. I find myself stuck between two worlds I did study some history at University yet living mostly in India I see both sides. Time seems nebulous here. Obviously an archaeologist tries to pin down dates. Wheras a local is more likey to notice that since the Buddha said something similar to say Krisha then it must have occurred about then. I heard the Dala Lama once say that amongst Buddhist scholars the dates for the Buddha range from c560BCE to 10,000!
Of course science and theology are seeking two different things. The search for being is far more quaitative which I don’t believe can be reduced to biology or brain chemistry.
Historically, I think there are some things most historians agree on which relate to the article. After the Buddhist decline in India the country became a feudal society. During a time of a very fluid population Warlord/rulers then patronised their kingdoms with artists and Brahmins giving power to sites now considered sacred. Hinduism and the sacredness of the sites predates this of course. What is debated is the extent of the Brahmins influence and power before that time. Texts had previously been written on destructible palm leaf. So dating of texts – atleast scientifically – can only be done to about c second century BCE.
Then of couse the narrowness of scientific observation has major problems too.
Its great to hear from you.
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I just saw your reply. For some reason I didn’t see it before now. I did a minor in history and I love the subject. I agree with you about how locals are content to be ‘about right’ while academics get picky! It’s neat to hear you describe the culture in a happenstance kind of way! I have had my head in research articles for far too long it seems! Ordinary conversation seems almost foreign – Lol! I don’t like the reductionist tendency either. There are times when science is the culprit and then there is the question of decentered subjects and Marxism that I have not studied in context. Good to hear from you! Keep in touch!
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A very nice post. The controversy about Wendy Doniger seems to be everywhere. Nonetheless I found her book ver captivating. I am no Hindu scholar yet I appreciated that enthusiasm for learning and above all not letting anything “unthought”, always being free in one’s reasoning.
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